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Dear CKL,sorry to say that i dont agree with your comment pertaining to your response to 青天白月. If your are a Gerakan member then I hope you better get rid of the mentality which non member should not commend about Gerakan. You must understand that at the end of the day it is the public vote Gerakan in (or out in this recent GE). I welcome the good gesture from 青天白月 for his fair comment and the most applaudable is he got the "balls" to leave his REAL identification. This is so called talk without fear or favour. Bravo!
Hi 愚公移山, if you're a member or leader in Gerakan, sorry I don't agree to your comments. Being a Gerakan member or leader, how do you handle the attack or cyber-war and protect your party??? Be SILENT and LISTEN? Just like what Gerakan has been in practise for almost 40 years?
If you're a member or leader in Gerakan, please Stand up and Speak up... let us see you're dare to protect your party, even when the inroad comes from a friend of yours. Please correct their mindset! Not always be SILENT and LISTEN to comments from others!
During General Election, members of Gerakan "listened" to all kind of comments from the public, being silent! So what happened? Total Lost in Penang! Members of other political parties, especially DAP, PKR & PAS are also the ones who have the right to vote Gerakan... Do you listen to their comments?
Silent Politic is no longer useful, or it should not be useful, anyway!
Please correct the mindset of the public and protect your party, by all means. Of course, NVM & sorry if you're not a member or leader in Gerakan!
Friends, I only ordinary citizens, I am not a politician & did not join political parties. I do not see my comments are destructive. I only hope that the Gerakan in the next general election can break a way out, as advocated by the Gerakan is multi-ethnic political line. I sympathize with the Gerakan party in general election because it actually dragged by racial party. So I hope that the Gerakan will protect themselves from the racial party,but not to attack ordinary people like me. From 青天白月
hi iggy, friend or not friend this is another issue.In politic sometimes "enemies" gains my respect more than "friends".
If you are saying "During General Election, members of Gerakan "listened" to all kind of comments from the public, being silent" this is ABSOLUTELY not true and you are being not fair to Gerakan. ANd you must be either didnt read or hide at home during the period of campaign.
We must learn to accept suggestion and criticism. Dont be too defensive and paranoid.
We always stand up and speak up through various platforms and channels. If you open your eyes and ears big enough you will aware of this.
Please don't treat that as an "attack" but a "defend" instead. After the failure of Gerakan in the recent general election, the members have been quite "sensitive in terms of unity" as we cannot afford to fail again, in the next general election.
Like what Dato' Seri Lim Keng Yaik mentioned at the AEC of Astro yesterday that Gerakan should not have lost entirely at the recent general election. But, it's the fact that people hate BN more than loving Gerakan, even though Gerakan has been doing their best in the general public, not in the whole of Malaysia but at least Penang.
He added, the failure mostly attributed to the "silent-momentum" of Gerakan in the past years. So, do you expect the members to be silent again? Of course, it's NOT supposed to shout for the sake of shouting. But, members are encouraged to make right the wrong perception of others.
It's always good to defend the party, if something pop-ups (esp negative comments). If we don't defend, then when do you think the best time to safeguard the party?
We start learning to be more defensive, not only for the party but for the whole community.
You may be classified as an ordinary people, but me too. No one is so special in the society! But, I can see that you're very concerned over the political situation in Malaysia. As such, you may consider enrol to the family of Gerakan and let's work together for the benefit of all our friends - Malaysians!
I'm a member of Gerakan but I'm NOT paid to be a member. It's NOT necessary for me to defend Gerakan, but I have my responsibility being a member. Of course, I'm NOT dare to turn-around the situation for Gerakan, but at least I can defend the party on occasions especially on line. Unlike others, I choose not to be a nice man on some occasions like this. Otherwise, NO point for me to be part of the party.
Similarly, someone attacks your family member whether directly or indirectly, do you keep silent and collect the comments for your future improvement or you would try to defend your family member too?
Sorry for the unnecessary virtual comment, that hurts you. But, I hope you would understand the feeling of others too.
Hi 愚公移山, you may be right! the group of opponents gain the most respect. This is due to their ways of approach, including the use of cyber-war. We should learn from these strategies. So, we should learn the art and science of cyber-war, of course defending the group is a basic requirement.
Yes, you might had stood and spoken during the GE, but was it laud enough? or only to a small group of hundreds or to 40k-50k of Malaysians in presence, like DAP/PKR ones? So, Notwithstanding! We're to learn from the lesson, How to gather a group of 40k-50k to listen to us? Then, our "voice" is therefore valid and effective. Please don't think that work is done, the final result is more important! You see the power of blogging of Jeff Ooi, he defends and attacks via internet! But, he would NOT attack his own group and claim that's the way of improvement?!
Jeff ooi never ask the supporters to open their eyes and ears bigger before they're able to notice? Nothwithstanding, please evaluate or form an idea of level of your voice? If you claim that you have done so?
Yes, you're right "忠言逆耳。 聽不聽由不得我!" But, do you have a good mirror?
Ok, let's stop here, we have much more to do for the benefit of Gerakan. Importantly, protect your party and your members, even on the internet, please.
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如果和马华比较,民政未来路会更加崎岖。至少马华还有四位部长,民政呢?内阁没有任何部长,最惨的是槟州堡垒皆被火箭蓝眼完全摧毁。如果这一届,民盟在槟城表现出真正实权与特出,那么一向来给人印象没有实权的民政党又要如何走呢?
说得难听点,其实民政已经没有路可退,也没有路可走了。只希望火箭蓝眼犯错或表现不好,然后加上巫统不再霸权,才有希望在下届大选背水一战。看起来很被动,但毕竟是现实。
再谈谈其他可能性,首先民政先跟国阵其他成员党把话说清楚,能不能解散然后成立多元种族政党,当然这个可能性很低,因为巫统尚壮,除非巫统分裂。第二,民政退出国阵孤军作战,但孤军力寡,很难在国阵与民盟之间讨好。第三,民政加入民盟,但是寄他人之篱下的党员很难立足与发挥。所以本人觉得民政在马来西亚的政治前景黯淡了。
追根究底,林敬益先生应负很大责任。老人家要退休前应该指责巫统的不是才对,反正都要退休了,还有什么好怕呢?那种多一事不如少一事的心态害惨了今天的民政党。
民政党的优点是党员素质高,还有许子根的君子风度好,让人留下好印象。目前的团结力量也很好,问题是能耐久吗?万一有人欣赏其党员而利诱跳槽,又当如何呢?所以许先生眼下最重要的任务就是巩固党内的力量,灌输党员不计较得失的心态,然后再希望神迹的出现才会有明天。
最后本人觉得如果民政党下届大选还惨败的话,那么民政党应当自行解散,好让有抱负的党员可以自由选择其他政党以服务人民,只有这样子背水一战的心态或者才能突破民政党目前的困境。
Dear CKL,sorry to say that i dont agree with your comment pertaining to your response to 青天白月. If your are a Gerakan member then I hope you better get rid of the mentality which non member should not commend about Gerakan. You must understand that at the end of the day it is the public vote Gerakan in (or out in this recent GE). I welcome the good gesture from 青天白月 for his fair comment and the most applaudable is he got the "balls" to leave his REAL identification. This is so called talk without fear or favour. Bravo!
Hi 愚公移山, if you're a member or leader in Gerakan, sorry I don't agree to your comments. Being a Gerakan member or leader, how do you handle the attack or cyber-war and protect your party??? Be SILENT and LISTEN? Just like what Gerakan has been in practise for almost 40 years?
If you're a member or leader in Gerakan, please Stand up and Speak up... let us see you're dare to protect your party, even when the inroad comes from a friend of yours. Please correct their mindset! Not always be SILENT and LISTEN to comments from others!
During General Election, members of Gerakan "listened" to all kind of comments from the public, being silent! So what happened? Total Lost in Penang! Members of other political parties, especially DAP, PKR & PAS are also the ones who have the right to vote Gerakan... Do you listen to their comments?
Silent Politic is no longer useful, or it should not be useful, anyway!
Please correct the mindset of the public and protect your party, by all means. Of course, NVM & sorry if you're not a member or leader in Gerakan!
Friends, I only ordinary citizens, I am not a politician & did not join political parties. I do not see my comments are destructive. I only hope that the Gerakan in the next general election can break a way out, as advocated by the Gerakan is multi-ethnic political line. I sympathize with the Gerakan party in general election because it actually dragged by racial party. So I hope that the Gerakan will protect themselves from the racial party,but not to attack ordinary people like me.
From 青天白月
hi iggy, friend or not friend this is another issue.In politic sometimes "enemies" gains my respect more than "friends".
If you are saying "During General Election, members of Gerakan "listened" to all kind of comments from the public, being silent" this is ABSOLUTELY not true and you are being not fair to Gerakan. ANd you must be either didnt read or hide at home during the period of campaign.
We must learn to accept suggestion and criticism. Dont be too defensive and paranoid.
We always stand up and speak up through various platforms and channels. If you open your eyes and ears big enough you will aware of this.
忠言逆耳。 聽不聽由不得我!
Dear 青天白月, yours noted.
Please don't treat that as an "attack" but a "defend" instead.
After the failure of Gerakan in the recent general election, the members have been quite "sensitive in terms of unity" as we cannot afford to fail again, in the next general election.
Like what Dato' Seri Lim Keng Yaik mentioned at the AEC of Astro yesterday that Gerakan should not have lost entirely at the recent general election. But, it's the fact that people hate BN more than loving Gerakan, even though Gerakan has been doing their best in the general public, not in the whole of Malaysia but at least Penang.
He added, the failure mostly attributed to the "silent-momentum" of Gerakan in the past years. So, do you expect the members to be silent again? Of course, it's NOT supposed to shout for the sake of shouting. But, members are encouraged to make right the wrong perception of others.
It's always good to defend the party, if something pop-ups (esp negative comments). If we don't defend, then when do you think the best time to safeguard the party?
We start learning to be more defensive, not only for the party but for the whole community.
You may be classified as an ordinary people, but me too. No one is so special in the society! But, I can see that you're very concerned over the political situation in Malaysia. As such, you may consider enrol to the family of Gerakan and let's work together for the benefit of all our friends - Malaysians!
I'm a member of Gerakan but I'm NOT paid to be a member. It's NOT necessary for me to defend Gerakan, but I have my responsibility being a member. Of course, I'm NOT dare to turn-around the situation for Gerakan, but at least I can defend the party on occasions especially on line. Unlike others, I choose not to be a nice man on some occasions like this. Otherwise, NO point for me to be part of the party.
Similarly, someone attacks your family member whether directly or indirectly, do you keep silent and collect the comments for your future improvement or you would try to defend your family member too?
Sorry for the unnecessary virtual comment, that hurts you. But, I hope you would understand the feeling of others too.
Thank you.
Hi 愚公移山, you may be right! the group of opponents gain the most respect. This is due to their ways of approach, including the use of cyber-war. We should learn from these strategies. So, we should learn the art and science of cyber-war, of course defending the group is a basic requirement.
Yes, you might had stood and spoken during the GE, but was it laud enough? or only to a small group of hundreds or to 40k-50k of Malaysians in presence, like DAP/PKR ones? So, Notwithstanding! We're to learn from the lesson, How to gather a group of 40k-50k to listen to us? Then, our "voice" is therefore valid and effective. Please don't think that work is done, the final result is more important! You see the power of blogging of Jeff Ooi, he defends and attacks via internet! But, he would NOT attack his own group and claim that's the way of improvement?!
Jeff ooi never ask the supporters to open their eyes and ears bigger before they're able to notice? Nothwithstanding, please evaluate or form an idea of level of your voice? If you claim that you have done so?
Yes, you're right "忠言逆耳。 聽不聽由不得我!" But, do you have a good mirror?
Ok, let's stop here, we have much more to do for the benefit of Gerakan. Importantly, protect your party and your members, even on the internet, please.
Stand Up Speak Up, with a higher in volume!
Thank you.
哗!, 怎麽我的 blog 忽然在一夜之间就熱閙起來了呢! 首先, 谢谢你们的浏览和评论. 不过, 可不要傷和气, 要以和为贵, 遵守自由言论的规矩喔!
青天白月啊! 是否有听过"失败为成功之母",
这就是政治游戏, 是人类滿足自己心靈空虛 的另一个戰爭與和平! 黑貓或白貓能捉老鼠的就是好貓,管它是什麽党.
如果, 每个运动员都有像你相似的想法, 在比赛中输掉, 難不成他们就要跳槽到別的运动领域去了吗! 假设, 民政再轉变, 到那时候, 高不成, 低不就, 而且还成了老鼠过街, 人人喊打, 挺不是更低劣. 你看看, 火箭们都可以用四十年的光陰和不服输的精神才能有今天治政的机会. 所以, 留得青山在, 不愁没柴烧. 民政因絯没有那麽弱不禁風, 这麼容易被摧毀吧!
所谓, 世上无难事, 只怕有心人. 况且, 槟州堡垒被火箭蓝眼夺去才只不过是二个月的时間. 難到, 你希望看到民政認输和解散吗! 何必用消极的态度看民政呢! 为民政党员们打打气吧!
据我所知, 民政创党以來都是走多元种族路线. 只是, 后期的接班人慢慢淡忘了它们的理念. 这点民政因该反省反省.
最后, 我希望看到你所谓民政党素质高的党员们能抱着宁为玉碎, 不为瓦全的决心, 战胜敌对.
不好意思,触动各位的神经线。鄙下是支持多元种族路线的,我希望民政纵使遭遇困境,但请别泄气。
我不是林吉祥的人马,不过有一点民政可以参考阿祥叔。火箭连续大选惨败后,他们就改换策略。林吉祥就一直灌输群众,告诉群众,不要以为火箭永远不会消失。不投火箭,火箭就会灭亡。火箭巧妙应用没有资产的处境,把它化为最大的资产。这种背水一战的心态造成选民强大的反弹。所以鄙下只希望民政能参考别人的经验化为己有,如此而已。
最后想与各位分享名人的语录:
凡属正确的任务、政策和工作作风,都是和当时当地的群众要求相适合,都是联系群众的;凡属错误的任务、政策和工作作风,都是和当时当地的群众要求不相适合,都是脱离群众的。教条主义、经验主义、命令主义、尾巴主义、宗派主义、官僚主义、骄傲自大的工作态度等项弊病之所以一定不好,一定要不得,如果什么人有了这类弊病一定要改正,就是因为它们脱离群众。
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